tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post9037918874836219291..comments2024-03-14T02:13:34.702-04:00Comments on Just About Write: Suits 5x05 "Toe to Toe" (Misplaced Anger and Some Mudding)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-51894811382681284712015-07-26T07:27:17.031-04:002015-07-26T07:27:17.031-04:00YES TO ALL OF THIS.YES TO ALL OF THIS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-11107751834290006912015-07-26T00:23:28.256-04:002015-07-26T00:23:28.256-04:00Ninet -- First of all, thank you so much for your ...Ninet -- First of all, thank you so much for your comment and compliment! I'm so honored that you not only love the reviews but the thing you love is the thing I love about writing them! I care about plot, but not nearly as much as the these characters. Thank you for saying that!<br /><br />Onto other things: I, too, am loving this Louis/Donna more than I thought I would and I completely agree with you. Louis is best when he's being the lovable goofball (like the insertion of the mudding this episode made it SO fantastic), not when they're trying to make him the villain. I'm glad this episode seemed to return us firmly in that direction.<br /><br />I really am curious to know how Donna is feeling and you're all correct: we've seen so much of how the separation has impacted Harvey but we really know next to nothing about how it's hitting Donna. As I said in a comment above, it seems we will be getting more Harvey/Donna in two episodes, so I really hope they take time and let her express her feelings. She's done that a little bit by calling Harvey out on the whole "treating her like a stranger" thing. So we get glimpses of her pain but not what the actual root of it is.<br /><br />And honestly, when it comes to showrunners and ships, I've kind of given up hope on men being able to successfully write an endgame relationship without dragging it out or waiting until the very last episode. Honestly, I've always stuck by the idea that if you refuse to write romance honestly in your show, you lose something fundamentally human about it because there is nothing more human than love. I wish I could believe that they have a plan or that it'll swing in the Harvey/Donna favor... and I hope it will, but I'm not holding my breath. I've been burned before so I'm a bit bitter, lol.<br /><br />Anyway thank you SO much for your comments! :)Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-42980315715986077612015-07-25T21:27:57.126-04:002015-07-25T21:27:57.126-04:00I so agree with you Jen...not committing to someth...I so agree with you Jen...not committing to something when you are a writer or creator and always living in the grey makes the show loose its authenticity. I always found Suits had clever writing but if they don't make a decision in the end and let it all unresolved I will be so incredibly disappointed and for me that would be some very good writing turned to crap. Sorry but yeah :P So i hope they make Harvey and Donna get together soon because that dream sequence can't possibly be platonic. I mean she was naked! At this point if they don't resolve the Darvey issues by the end of season 5 or lets say max the middle of season 6, it would become annoying and they will drag it on for far to long. I can bet you anything that's when fans will start loosing interest. <br /><br />And I don't know, maybe it's just me but I really don't like Aaron Korsh. I follow him on Twitter and man can he be an ass sometimes. I don't like his attitude when he answers fan questions he can really come off as arrogant. Not a good image for the show!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-47429872022767336772015-07-25T21:06:08.852-04:002015-07-25T21:06:08.852-04:00whatever the meaning of the dream was Donna was si...whatever the meaning of the dream was Donna was sitting NAKED in harvey's bed! I think they have crossed the line now and can't describe it as platonic anymore. I mean c'mon would you have your friend/sister/cousin/any type of family naked on your bed? No right? <br /><br />I think the dream means this: he would like to have a relationship with donna because deep down he know he loves her but he is scared. and he is scared because of his commitment issues. and he has commitment issues because of what his mom did. and donna ''represents his mom'' in the dream like the doc said because donna he is the he wants to be with. if it were not any random woman would have been in that bed besides donna. that is what i think!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-10560050252497414712015-07-25T19:01:51.775-04:002015-07-25T19:01:51.775-04:00yea exactly like you put it The woman has feelings...yea exactly like you put it The woman has feelings we want to see them, i have a feeling we will get some insight into her emotional state somewhere in the next two episodes. Im so curious and eager to see where they are taking this whole Harvey/Donna thing. <br />Also i think everyone kind of knows what happened. Donna told Rachel in a really distorted way in the first episode, and Rachel told Mike, who at one point in the first episode did ask Harvey about "the Donna situation".Obvs Harvey shut it down. And Jessica just knows their dynamic well enough to figure out what could have happen that donna wanted more and harvey is too closed off. However i find it odd that Lois hasn't asked Donna since he is so nosey with them. But i think we will soon see Lois have a moment with either one of them in which he will calmly ask what exactly happen. <br />Im pretty much just watching the show for Donna and Harvey lol Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433313479357335938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-21005658115784970252015-07-25T17:40:31.377-04:002015-07-25T17:40:31.377-04:00I agree, I'm a little frustrated because we do...I agree, I'm a little frustrated because we don't really know how Donna feels about this separation from Harvey. I mean, I know she's the one who wanted it, and I know she seems a whole lot more put-together than Harvey does, but it would be nice to just have a little scene where she is maybe talking to Rachel about how much she misses him, or just maybe seeing him work with Gretchen and feeling nostalgic or SOMETHING. The woman has emotions. I just want to see them.<br /><br />Btw I think it's extremely strange that literally no one is trying to figure out exactly what happened between Donna and Harvey. NO ONE. One day Donna decides she's leaving Harvey after working for him for 12 years and everyone is like, "ok, cool" no questions asked? All Mike and Rachel know is that it has something to do with their feelings. But that's not really much and I find it hard to believe that neither of them is interested in what actually happened. I thought for sure we would have gotten a scene each where Mike/Rachel ask Harvey/Donna, "so what happened?" before getting shut down...harumscarumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-91596277355006909852015-07-25T16:35:31.669-04:002015-07-25T16:35:31.669-04:00ninet I couldn´t agree more with you, well with th...ninet I couldn´t agree more with you, well with the exception a little bit of Donna and Louis relationship, not a big fan, for me its repetitive and Donna shines more with Harvey, and furthermore to be honest, I really miss Donna and Harvey together.<br /><br />As for the rest of your opinion, totally agree with you every word.We don´t have many Donna and Harvey scenes because they want to delay as much as they can to go there with them (romantic wise) and even I am not sure if they ever will go there.<br /><br />I don´t expect a big change in their relationship as far as this season is concern, in fact I expect Donna to have someone in her life (maybe a serious relationship??)<br /><br />The game of will they or won´t they it´s interesting but (at least for me) up to a certain point, because not only the audience may get tired of them and many times when the couple get together, you think it´s not that believable now, also IMO shows a lack of ideas and creativity in the writing.<br /><br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17752180027965568064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-42672848413849502032015-07-24T13:02:55.431-04:002015-07-24T13:02:55.431-04:00Hello again Jennifer!
Great review as always! I h...Hello again Jennifer!<br /><br />Great review as always! I have to say, in case you aren't aware of it, that one of the things that make your reviews different (and better) from all the others I've seen, is the sectioning/discussion you do per character interaction (e.g. Harvey/Mike/Tanner (+ Donna) , Louis/Jessica, etc). So, thumbs up for this! :) <br /><br />On with the episode, I enjoyed this one better than the previous. Definitely the Louis-Donna thing is working so much better than I expected! Also, I'm glad I get to like Louis again. In the previous season the damage in his character was too much for me, I almost couldn't bear to watch. He has his flaws, but they actually made him look "evil", while I thing he is more like a big-baby.<br /> <br />Btw I just had an observation: the interaction between Harvey and Donna is really, really limited to non-existent in almost every episode. Especially if you consider that their broken relationship is a great part of the plot for this season.<br />In this aspect, I also think we are lacking the "how-Donna-handles-the-situation" plot. I can see Harvey dealing with it, but how is Donna? Considering she is the one that initiated the breakup. <br /><br />//Not even gonna mention anything about the first scene...it was *awesome* but the minute I saw it, I knew it was a dream and that somehow they would diminish its importance by the end of the episode.<br />//Also, I am seriously concerned with Aaron Korsh. He stated that he is expecting a season 8, and if he really thinks that, there is no way he will give out anything Darvey-like. And I am worried that we might miss the right moment. I don't know what you think, but imho, there is point in every show where the relationship between characters is "right" and ready to progress. I think season 5 (even if Korsh didn't plan it) IS this point for Harvey and Donna. If he actually drag it out or (even worst) doesn't go there after all this mess, he will ruin the feeling of the show. Maybe even more than if he gave out the pairing too early.<br /><br />Cheers! :D<br />ninethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12539086805889298592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-72409355321039025042015-07-24T09:56:39.647-04:002015-07-24T09:56:39.647-04:00Hi Silvia! First off: thank you for your comments....Hi Silvia! First off: thank you for your comments.<br /><br />I think you're right. It seriously reminds me of how Dan Harmon ended Community for Jeff and Annie. He LITERALLY had a moment between them but left the rest ambiguous. If you loved the pairing, you could imagine they became a couple; if you didn't, he left that open too. Which is... it's dangerous but I guess I can kind of see why creators do it. They don't want to jump the gun in committing to something, but at the same time, I think you lose your authenticity and something very human about your show if you forgo romance for as long as Suits has with Harvey and Donna.<br /><br />I think we'll see more inclusion of Donna in therapy in the coming episodes. From the USA press site, here's part of the official description for 5x07, titled "Hitting Home": ... And Donna and Harvey try to get their friendship back to normal, but Harvey has a hard time stomaching Donna's "friendly advice."<br /><br />So, I'm really interested to see how this all plays out. EEP.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-14826786236313069042015-07-24T09:49:35.601-04:002015-07-24T09:49:35.601-04:00Thank you for reading and commenting, anon! :D
I ...Thank you for reading and commenting, anon! :D<br /><br /><i>I think it's important he couldn't admit that it was Donna for so long... he just can't have anyone know how he really feels about her ;) The therapist could have focussed a little more on THAT before dropping the mom bomb IMO :D</i><br /><br />RIGHT? And he noted specifically that it had been bothering him all week. It's really important that yeah, Harvey didn't reveal that because we all know Donna is still a trigger point for him. Re-watch the scene where he talks to the therapist about... I believe it was moving past things and people who have hurt him. Because the therapist is talking about Tanner and she asks him to name examples of ways he's trusted people who have wronged him. And he mentions Louis at first. And then Mike. And... he literally pauses before he can even UTTER Donna's name. He's still really fragile there, so much so that he can barely say her name. Because that makes it real. Same reason he couldn't mention Donna's name in conjunction with the dream. If it's real, he has to address it.<br /><br />I'm totally with you though: I think the therapy inclusion this year is really making Suits more well-rounded and cohesive than it has been!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-12467089842600536042015-07-24T07:48:21.410-04:002015-07-24T07:48:21.410-04:00IMO what they are doing right now is leaving every...IMO what they are doing right now is leaving everything up to interpretations on purpose so they can continue to keep all their options open regarding what direction they are going to move Harvey and Donna’s relationship. Aaron himself said that they don´t know what to do with them basically, which honestly it shows in the show. Right now they are pleasing on one hand the Darvey fans by giving some scenes and onthe other hand the fans that don´t want them to be together. <br /><br />It worries me so much that they don´t have a clear picture about Harvey and Donna. I can´t believe that the therapist hasn´t asked him about Donna and their relationship for the last 12 years. But well it´s all about dragging out the whole situation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17752180027965568064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-19814285072419048742015-07-23T18:30:19.000-04:002015-07-23T18:30:19.000-04:00yea thats so true its like you side "it's...yea thats so true its like you side "it's more about his general abandonment issues stem from his mom and Donna's departure reiforced that issue." I just hope that they make that clear to Harvey because he's pretty slow at figuring that type of stuff out.. I also have a feeling that perhaps the therapist is sort of playing him in the sense that she wants him to come to terms about his feelings for Donna on his own because she understands his personality now and that if she flat out says "oh H maybe you're in love with her", he will brush it off. As oppose to her down playing donna so that he actually up plays it. if that makes any sense lol. <br />And I guess the therapist went straight to the mom issue because clearly she recognizes what he needs to work on. so that he can finally pursue a relationship which his dream revealed he wants. so she was like 'okay forget donna's role lets get straight to the issue here. <br />I can't believe there are only 5 episodes left before the mid summer finale, they seriously better give us a solid clear cut darvey interaction regarding their feelings. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433313479357335938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-22605064132646827022015-07-23T18:14:58.491-04:002015-07-23T18:14:58.491-04:00about Mike's hair, I think this season is mean...about Mike's hair, I think this season is meant to show us a harvey who is not getting his shit together (his words, not mine) and a Mike who is becoming the Harvey we met in season one, all together, winning and at his best days. The hair is a symbol of that. Also, I think the color looks darker because of whatever product they r using on the hair to give it that look, the same way Gabriel's hair used to look dark in season one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-60772820232664099422015-07-23T17:01:42.299-04:002015-07-23T17:01:42.299-04:00Ah I loved how you interpreted the dream! Really a...Ah I loved how you interpreted the dream! Really a lot better than the therapist :D <br />But I don't think that his realtionship with Donna is made platonic or mother-like because she represents his issues with his mother. It's more about his general abandonment issues stem from his mom and Donna's departure reiforced that issue. <br />Man, I really liked when he punched Tanner in the face, ooh yes...<br />And this: "We see that he does desire happiness and stability in a relationship. He was so happy in his dream, looking at Donna. And the best part was that so was she. They were content. He WANTS that life whether or not he can admit it." YES, absolutely YES TO ALL OF THIS.<br />I think it's important he couldn't admit that it was Donna for so long... he just can't have anyone know how he really feels about her ;) The therapist could have focussed a little more on THAT before dropping the mom bomb IMO :D But I'm more than ready to have Harvey work on that, too! This psychological stuff is hella interesting :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-87122596948254810352015-07-23T16:50:51.484-04:002015-07-23T16:50:51.484-04:00Hello and welcome Farwa! Thank you for your kind c...Hello and welcome Farwa! Thank you for your kind comment. :D I really do hope we return to the dream soon and that it isn't brushed aside as this one-off thing. Harvey though did mention in therapy that the dream has been what he's thought about all week and it's bugged him. I do believe Harvey knows the way he can really be happy with Donna but is totally unwilling to take that step because it could backfire.<br /><br />Amazing analysis of the dream scene, by the way. Everything you said, I definitely think is true, too. <br /><br /><i>ugh like it scares me that they are trying to embrace this harvey and donna are like family because that makes it easier to make them platonic and they are putting us down easy in fact fans will be like "okay why do we even want to see them together romantically, its kinda ew if they are fam".</i><br /><br />I kind of do worry about that. I would hope they would respect the romantic nature of their relationship, but, you know... Korsh is kind of a troll so I'm not sure how much I trust him as far as that goes, haha. Still, hopefully they don't try and go down the platonic route because THEY PLAYED THE SCIENTIST DURING ONE OF THEIR SCENES THIS SEASON. THAT'S JUST NOT PLATONIC.<br /><br />I can't wait for the therapist to make an appearance at Pearson Specter Litt! I'm really loving her. I hope they don't ever give me a reason to stop.<br /><br />Thanks again for your comment!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-30270367492925530102015-07-23T16:42:57.153-04:002015-07-23T16:42:57.153-04:00Thanks for your comments harumscarum! Man, the epi...Thanks for your comments harumscarum! Man, the episode opened with me going: "NO, BAD HARVEY" until I saw who it was and then immediately went: "YESSSSSSSS. WAIT. NO. IT'S A DREAM." Still, what a way to open the episode, right? ;)<br /><br />I honestly hadn't really thought of the parallelism until I started writing. And then I thought: "Woah, yeah. That's exactly what is happening."<br /><br />Mike's hair is like, SUPER dark now. I don't know if Patrick had to dye it for something, or if the new look just makes it look darker? I'm glad NO ONE is a fan of the new hairdo though, haha.<br /><br />DONNA AND JESSICA. SO AMAZING. SO BEAUTIFUL. I want all of their dresses and jewelry. One dress would probably cost, like, four months' rent.<br /><br />Thanks again for your comment!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-68937688841892304782015-07-23T16:09:18.107-04:002015-07-23T16:09:18.107-04:00I enjoyed this episode and your review, i really h...I enjoyed this episode and your review, i really hope that they come back to the dream and dissect it more. I hate that the therapist didn't break it down more, she just jumped to its a mommy issue thing. I feel there were two parts of the dream. First when harvey is happy and looking at donna from the mirror and ready to come over to her. Symbolizing as you pointed out more in life he wants a relationship that intimacy and happiness. so as he is going to pursue it and wants to go through that door, he stops. Literally in the door way. and this is when the dream takes a new meaning because thats when he sees her with Tanner at which point its about his fear that stops him from passing through that door. obviously the fear stems from mom issues and tension about unresolved issues with her. but I just did not like how the therapist jumped straight to the whole mom thing, ugh like it scares me that they are trying to embrace this harvey and donna are like family because that makes it easier to make them platonic and they are putting us down easy in fact fans will be like "okay why do we even want to see them together romantically, its kinda ew if they are fam". i was totally turned off when at the end the therapist is like "yo H its ur mom". I was literally like yo shut up doc, she docent even know enough about his mom or their relationship to draw that type of conclusion. ...As seen in the promo for next week The therapist is involved in a case as a character witness at their firm for a mutual client, so I'm hopping this lady sees Donna in the flesh and goes "oh shit no way was that dream about his mom" Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433313479357335938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-77752743761906712592015-07-23T12:59:38.859-04:002015-07-23T12:59:38.859-04:00Great review!! I nearly choked when i saw the drea...Great review!! I nearly choked when i saw the dream sequence OMGGGG!! Please can that be a reality some day?!?!?! <br /><br />I really like how you've pointed out the difference in Louis and Harvey in this episode. Louis is moving forward but Harvey is sooo not. <br /><br />Is it just me or is Mike not even blonde anymore? His hair looked brown on my laptop! What is happening to the universe? <br /><br />I also really loved Donna and Jessica. I have a special love for their scenes =P<br /><br />Jessica is just a BAMF lately. Dayum. harumscarumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-29998268127364339152015-07-23T09:05:48.314-04:002015-07-23T09:05:48.314-04:00I don't know if that necessarily was what she ...I don't know if that necessarily was what she was suggesting (though Donna did always take care of Harvey). I think she was saying that Donna's presence in the dream is symbolic for unresolved issues in general (because Harvey does still have unresolved issues with Donna), but that those unresolved issues include issues with his mother, too. Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-52064619281187604732015-07-23T08:56:11.410-04:002015-07-23T08:56:11.410-04:00I'm especially proud of that! Can you imagine ...I'm especially proud of that! Can you imagine a little Harvey hamster? ;)<br /><br />Thanks so much for reading and your comment!Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11696902354009598893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-83190677523174594452015-07-23T06:12:39.398-04:002015-07-23T06:12:39.398-04:00I have always thought that Donna acted totally mot...I have always thought that Donna acted totally motherly towards Harvey so good call by the therapist!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6678481478994191244.post-82896513697336985112015-07-23T03:49:51.091-04:002015-07-23T03:49:51.091-04:00"He'll just keep cycling, like a hamster ..."He'll just keep cycling, like a hamster in a suit and tie on a giant wheel."<br /><br />highlight of the review really. great analysis as always!!! <3Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com